Been to Llywelyn's three times in the last couple of months. My experiences were as follows.
1. Memorial Day, around 1:30 with hubs and kids. Okay, we were all hot, tired, and hungry; not a good combination. Hubs ordered some curry thing, I got the fish and chips with rarebit sauce, and the kids ordered something I can't remember. What I do recall is that our waitress, although nice enough, was completely incompetent. She brought the kids the wrong food and her earth-shattering response was, Oh yeah, I did. The curry was terrible; really thin and watery. The fish and chips were fine, although the fish pieces were a little too think. Let's be honest, here: I am just not a fan of in-house chips. I'm an asshole and like the stuff out of the bag, okay? I don't know why I keep trying these things at restaurants. Waitress was overtly inattentive, so the manager got involved, and he saved the day by apologizing and comping the kiddie meals.
2. Met a friend here for hangover lunch on a Sunday. Waitress was better, but still no rock star. This time, I asked for buffalo chicken tenders, just not in the wrap, which is the only way they appear on the menu. Waitress said she would "see what she could do." Huh? I'm asking for LESS effort here; just throw the damn things on a plate and skip the wrap and its accoutrements. She came through (wow, what a champ!). I gotta say, those bastards were good, and the fries were excellent. My friend ordered the fried pickle spears, which were also tasty. The only way I've had fried pickles were in chip form, and I think those are better in terms of batter/pickle ratio. Friend also ordered a pretzel bread thing with some decent cheesy dipping sauce.
3. Met aforementioned friend, her sister, and another gal for ladies' night. Had the waitress from trip #1. She was slightly improved, but I was half in the bag by the time we left and in a forgiving mood. Got the Caesar salad this time (more room for booze), and it was very good; would definitely get again. Drinks were actually pretty cheap, which was a pleasant surprise. The family sitting next to us moved at one point because we were too loud. DON'T TAKE YOUR SMALL CHILDREN TO DINNER AT A BAR AFTER 7 P.M. IF YOU FIND ADULT CONVERSATION INAPPROPRIATE. Where were my kids? At home where they belong at that hour. All was good until the waitress asked us to cash out so she could go home. Yes, we were getting ready to leave, but seriously?
Bottom line: standard bar food fare is good. Service here is craptacular, so consider yourself warned. Whoever is hiring and/or training needs to find another vocation. Will I go back? Yeah, probably.
It was a beautiful day and we had made the trek to Euclid Records, so why not sit outside and enjoy?!
Typical pub fare. Â Salads were good. Â Homemade chips are extra special. Â Patio is perfect. Â Inside is huge. Â My guess they pack'em in for soccer matches.
Smoking on the sidewalk, just off the patio, has got to stop. Â I took off a star
Get the pub burger with soft cheese on an English muffin or the Guiness stew, and you can't go wrong. Â Lots of beer choices to choose from as well.
They have a patio out front when the weather is nice, and half of the place is for large groups and private parties while the other half is for the public.
Doin' the lent thang!
Llyewlyn's Pub is definitely not my scene. The Webster Groves spot is the third location that I've visited, and the neighborhood kind of defines my perception of the place. Â The Soulard location doesn't really fit as well because there's just so many better places to patronize. Â However, it fits really well in the Central West End and Webster Groves.
For us Catholics, it is currently Lent, that means we are prompted to eat fish on Friday. Â Don't ask. Â I don't know! Â My friend had been asking me almost every week to eat at Red Lobster, and it just doesn't interest me. Â When he mentioned Llywelyn's Pub, I felt like that would be a definite upgrade.
Is it a pub or a warehouse? Â This location is cavernous. Â It has a bar side, restaurant area, and another bar side! Â On a good night, I bet this place could hold hundreds of people.
As far as adult beverages, all Llywelyn's locations have a pretty nice beer selection. Â However, I am cheap and always looking for a special. Â They had some two dollar options, which worked for me! Â I ordered a two dollar PBR and waited for my friends.
The bar was a little understaffed for lunch. Â They had two bartender handling the enormous bar, and they were also waiting on the tables surrounding the bar. Â For a Friday lunch during March Madness, I thought that the staff was awfully light.
For the Catholic during Lent, Llywelyn's had some decent options. Â Also, they had a special, the shrimp po boy! Â One friend ordered a fish sandwich, and my other friend and I ordered the special. Â The meal prices are all around ten dollars and more, but the special was just $7.25! Â Also, the shrimp sandwich was large and very delicious.
As a hangout, most Llywelyn's locations would get around three stars. Â I wouldn't go out of my way to hang there, but I wouldn't go kicking and screaming. Â The Webster Groves spot is probably three stars, but Friday was an experience worth fandom.
Had a wonderful night and was able to visit three Pub's. Webster Groves (my Favorite), CWE, and Soulard.
15 of my friends and I where able to hop on the trolley and go from one Llywelyn's Pub to another to another. I had a great time at all locations, the service was wonderful, the staff friendly, the drinks great and the atmosphere was wonderful.
So we show up on a Saturday night with a party of 8. Nothing crazy... Hostess asks "are you eating or just drinking?" we respond "oh, definitely eating" we are handed a buzzer and told 5-10 minutes. This is at 9:30PM, the place is not terribly crowded and there are a few open tables still. We walk over to the bar to order a drink.
Problem #1. We ask about a specialty brew they have on draft. Bartender says "we are out of that but I have it in bottles." My friend says he will have one and is handed a 22oz bottle of beer and a $28 check, no warning that it was a bomber bottle or a $28 bottle of beer. Ouch, thanks for the heads up, Dick!
At around 9:50 we notice another group starting to stake claim at a table that was opening up. One person from our party asks the hostess whats happening and is told that is our table. After a few moments we finally get seated and our server is right there, ready for us.
We ask for food menus, he tells me "Sorry, kitchen closed at 10"
First off. Hostess NEVER made mention that we were on limited time to order food and knew damn good and well we wanted food when she told us 5-10 minute wait over 20 minutes ago. Secondly, it was at this time 9:58 according to their bar clock. Â This was BIG problem #2. We had gone here to eat and made it known 30 minutes prior we planned on eating food.
The server asks us for a drink order (mind you, some of us have drinks from the bar, some don't) and after the first 3 people say they only want water, he wanders away like he just saw Sasquatch on the far side of the bar and comes back 5 minutes later with 5 waters that are filled randomly (2 full, 1 half, etc.) for the 8 of us.
We finished our drinks and left. Terrible, terrible experience. 2nd in a row at a Llywelyn's, will not be going back for another visit to any of their establishments regardless of location.
I see a lot of pretty good reviews here summing up to 3 1/2 stars at the moment. Â Some are reviews of the beer, a few mentioning ONLY how good a particular beer was and leaving out the rest. Â On past visits, the beer was the only part I truly enjoyed. Â This visit to Llewellyn's, I didn't have any beer. Â Stone cold sober through the whole meal. Â This allowed me to see things clearly and reduced Llewellyn's to its essence: Â a not-very-good restaurant with an amazing selection of beer.
I had a Chicken Club sandwich. Â This was a sprinkling of small chicken pieces on a giant piece of bread, one strip of bacon, a large dollop of flavored mayo, and a lettuce leaf, cuddled up to a mountain of fries on the side. Â
The fries were the highly processed frozen manufactured starch sticks that have no discernable flavor other than grease and salt, because, as we all know, real potatoes are simply unobtainable in St. Louis. Â Besides, buying fresh potatoes once a week and cutting them into pieces is very, very complicated. Â Â
Everything had a mountain of fried potatoes on the side by default, though slaw was an option. Â Llewellyn's seems to think we all want to eat a LOT of fried potatoes. Â Between the heap of fries and the football-sized hunk of bread my sandwich was made from, I think I may have found a clue as to why we have an obesity epidemic in the US.
Speaking of obesity, nothing healthful or good for kids, no fresh fruit or chocolate milk, in spite of the many families present. Â Â If your kids like fried stuff, though, they are in luck. Â The "kids plate" includes a pack of Oreo cookies. Â They have sugary lemonade as an alternative to sugary soda. Â Kids also like the video games - two golf games, a pair of motorcycle games, skeeball and a hunting game with a plastic shotgun. Â More grown-up oriented than not, overall. Â
The place looks kind of beat up. Â As I said, the table was sticky, and the walls, floors, furniture, etc. looks like it's taken a beating. Â Tablecloths would conceal a lot of ills here. Â As would a little more motivation for the service staff. Â Things moved at a rather "European" pace. Â Start to finish, the dinner took over an hour and half to accomplish, with a long dry spell between the time the server asked me if I'd like a refill and when eventually she came back with it. Â To be fair, she did come back. Â And she asked a second time right before we left, which was nice of her.
So as I was mulling over what I thought of the sober Llewellyn's experience, I took a trip to the restroom. Â There I found the icing on the cake: NO TOWELS IN THE RESTROOMS. Â Just a hot air blower. Â So when the guy who cooks your food uses the restroom, he doesn't have a towel to open the door with. Â Instead, he grabs the handle with his bare hand, the same door handle all the pigs who use the toilet and don't wash their hands touched on the way out. Â
There used to be a little hook on the door so you could open it with your foot, but that's been removed. Â We were taught in food safety to not touch bathroom doors because there are germs and "traces of bodily waste" on them. Â How can you do that with no towels?
I know electric hand dryers rely on dirty, coal-fired power plants for their electricity, and that's bad for the environment, but germs are a big problem, too. Â Restaurants should have towels in the restrooms, period.
Ok pub food, sticky tables and a fine selection of beer. Â Nothing healthful or good for kids, no fruit or chocolate milk, in spite of the many families present. Â The success of this place is a great mystery to me. Â
At least it's reasonably priced.
I attended a birthday party at Llywelyn's Pub in their party room. This is a great location! Â The space is quite large with a dedicated bar, plenty of tables, a dart board and a sitting area with comfy lounge chairs. We had our own bartender who did a great job keeping up with the forty or so guests in our group. When he did need help, one of the bartenders from the restaurant side came over. We never waited for a drink!
The appetizer bar was set up on one side of the room and the selection was impressive. Mini tacos, stuffed mushrooms, toast ravioli, pizza, veggies and dip. Sure, it was all "bar food" but this was good "bar food". The veggies were fresh. The pizza was topped with a variety of meats. The toasted ravs were, well, toasted ravs. But who doesn't like toasted ravs?
The event coordinator continually checked with our party planner to see if everything was going well. The food was refilled when anything was low.
This was a great spot for the party and I recommend it for any event. The staff is great to work with and they really care.
What the hell to people from Wales eat? Isn't English food the nastiest in Europe? Why would Wales be any different? The truth is we shall never know because Llywelyn's is upscale bar food which owes more to the tastes of chubby Americans than anything European. However, they do have some killer "Celtic" onion soup, sweet potato fries and some of the best beer brewed I've tasted in the U.S. I can't remember the name of their homebrew but it was dark and strong and blew me away. So, go to Llywelyns and say, "I want to try that beer some random guy on Yelp was talking about, you know the good one." That should do the trick.
Review Source:When I go to class, no doubt I stop here. Their Thursday special is there sliders for $4.95. Pick 2 out of 3. There is always something I like and it's way fresher than McD's you know? Also the types of beer on draft is pretty good. Service on the other hand always sucks. This girl that's there is awful. I try to remember it's slow, but geez. I could probably make my own burger in that time.
Review Source:Wow! I've been to the Llywelyn's (anyone else have major trouble getting the spelling of that down? Sheeesh!) in the Central West End, so when I visited this location in Webster Groves, I was expecting it to be pretty much the same.
Boy, was I wrong! First of all, this location is HUGE. Like...ridiculously huge. There's soooo much space. So much seating.
I ordered my go-to drunk food, chicken strips. For $7.25, I expected them to at least come with fries; they didn't. Bummer. But these were pretty good, and the BBQ sauce served with them was fab.
My friend ordered the pretzel sticks. i'm pretty sure they were from Companion. They were delicious, of course. Super soft with just the right amount of salt. The spicy cheese dipping sauce was fantastic as well.
Drinks here are pretty cheap, and the service was fast and friendly, especially considering the size of our huge (and very very drunk) group.
Good work, Llywelyn's!
I've never been to this Llywelyn's location. It's a little tricky to get to and not nearly enough parking for the capacity it can hold but having said that...if parking is the worst part of the experience, then things went uphill from there.
I found myself in this Irish oasis for a networking happy hour during a Cards game broadcast. Not only did I get some cold brews but go to see the boys of summer on multiple TVs. I think it was a mellow evening as I've told in this location can get out of hand crowded. I guess I came on a good night.
I had the philly cheesesteak with mashed pototoes and was not disappointed. I enjoyed it immensely. I think this Llywelyn's would be great for an afternoon lunch. Note to self...
I got a gift card to use for this location and decided to give it a try. As luck would have it, I ended up there on St. Patrick's Day with a friend. The sea of people wearing green T-Shirts was a bit daunting, but since it was an extremely warm Spring day we decided to brave eating outside. I knew I was in MAJOR trouble when I saw the "Special St. Patrick's Day Menu". The offerings were sparse, and over priced for lunch. I asked our waitress if the regular menu was available and she replied "Nope". She also seemed to be fairly clueless about the beer menu which DOES feature some good Micro Brews. I asked her opinion about the "Descchutes Mirror Pond" Pale Ale from Oregon and she gleefully told me she had tried it and it was her FAVORITE beer! I ordered one, and found it extremely odd that 10 seconds later she asked me; "What was that beer you wanted again?".
As it turned out, the beer was the only good choice on the menu. For my entree I chose "Irish Stew" which promised Lamb, carrots, mushrooms, potatoes and leeks in a hearty bread bowl. The cost was $10 which seemed rather expensive but I'm a fan of savory stews. Our drinks and entrees arrived in prompt order. Upon looking at the "Irish Stew" I was immediately disappointed. The bread was a large soggy mass of white Play Doh. The Hole for the stew was so tiny it seemed like it was an afterthought. And garnished on the side of this glob or bleached dough? MORE pieces of bread bowl, just as sodden and under baked.
At this point I should have sent the whole mess back. But I decided that if the stew contents were succulent bits of lamb and hearty veggies I could live with the Giant Crater of Silly Putty. No. It was horrible at first bite! An overwhelming wave of bland gravy washed over my palette. Worse; I counted a total of 3 small sized chunks of lamb in the whole "Stew". It had absolutely NO FLAVOR. When you have to dump salt on a dish just to make it bearable, someone in the kitchen screwed up! And I suppose the Irish potato famine must still be going on. I saw 1/4 of a new potato in the whole dish. It was so bad I was bumming fries off my friend's plate and dousing them with Malt Vinegar. That was the tastiest part of the meal! Shortly after this mess arrived at our outdoor table, it began to storm. Kudos to our waitress for bringing us inside and to Llywelyn's for having an entire room ready to shelter from the rain. However this distraction kept me from sending this Stew back for something else. I rarely ever complain at a restaurant, but when the waitress brought the bill I told her how little meat was in the stew and how unsatisfying it was. Her response? "Oh yeah. People have said that. I always tell people to get the Roast beef instead. But I'll pass it along to the kitchen". Â At which point she happily took away my giftcard with NO offer for a refund, nor simply to bring a complimentary dish! Yeah I'm sure the kitchen staff will work REAL HARD next time to make that glop taste better! THis was a major disappointment in dining. AVOID THE WEBSTER GROVES location at ALL COSTS! It's pretty bad dining when I leave wishing I'd gone to Applebee's instead. At least the service was prompt and efficient. But when they bring you crap on a plate that hardly makes up for it.
Went to go enjoy the Blues and Mizzou games due to the large bar area with easy to view TV's. The place was packed, so we decided to get a table instead. They said the wait would be close to 30 minutes, when it was closer to 10. That's never a bad thing when it comes to the customers experience.
Decided to have the calamari for an appetizer, which I highly recommend. For the meal, I chose to try the days addition, seafood pot pie, which I did not enjoy. However, there was nothing wrong with the preparation or the dish, it just wasn't for me. The food came out extremely fast, even with a packed house of people and a party being catered in the party room.
The staff was friendly, polite, and provided their honest recommendations. The restaurant has a nice and open feel with many selections of food and beverages.
I am finally glad I tried Llywelyn's because I am now a major fan.
We got there around the start of the Blues game so the restaurant was packed. Â However the wait was not that bad and they have comfortable couches for you to lounge on with a tv and a fire going while you wait.
We got an appetizer of their spinach artichoke dip - delish! Â It was very creamy and the pita chips they served it with were soft and warm. Â I ordered the buffalo chicken wrap and my husband got their burger and we both were very pleased with our orders.
Prices were your average pub and grill and you're getting good food for the price!!
I have been wanting to get to Llywelyn's for a pub burger test so on a great October day Ms T and I decided to go to the zoo and stopped here for lunch. Â They were surprisingly not at all busy at lunch time, so we had good service and our choice of tables. Â Llywelyn's in Webster is a good sized pub.
I decided, rather than testing hamburgers after all, to ask the waitress what she would recommend out of all of the sandwiches. Â She quickly recommended the Famous Steak and Cheese so I went with that. Â I asked if the steak was sliced like a Philly and she said yes. Â Well, it was OK, but not great and if it is really "famous" it is over rated. Â The steak was medium rare and was actually a steak that was sort of chopped up (rather than thin sliced rib-eye in a Philly). Â The sandwich had thin onion rings and some cheese sauce. Â I have to be honest, it was all kind of one dimensional. Â The steak did not have enough seasoning or flavor of its own to rise above the cheese sauce. Â I think people who like this also order the cheese whiz nachos at the ball park. Â So it's just OK, not a re-order. Â I will go back, though, and try other sandwiches. Â They have a great sounding list aside from the burgers. Â I also had the colcannon as a side and some of Ms T's slaw. Â Both were good and I liked them together. Â The slaw was creamy and not overly sweet. Â It could use a little vinegar. Â Â The colcannon was really good. Â I understand (as the name implies) that it should have cabbage or kale in it. Â That part was undetectable, but the leek gave it a good onion flavor. Â This is basically like good fried mashed potatoes with onion. Â I liked it.
I also had a cup of the daily soup special, sea food gumbo. Â I have not found any truly good seafood gumbo in St Louis. Â This was as good as I have had although the shrimp were hopelesly overcooked and the fake crab had come apart in sheets. Â It had good piquancy and enough roux flavor to make it OK. Â
Ms T had a Beer Battered Cod sandwich which was huge. Â I was not overly impressed with this, but she liked it. Â The fish was too thick for it to fry properly. Â It was too wet and the breading was gooey and pasty next to the fish. Â I think that thinner filets would be much better. Â I'm sure they are trying to impress with the large cod filet, but they could always put two smaller, better prepared ones on the sandwich. Â
I know this review sounds less than positive, but I still liked Llywelyn's, and think there is hope for the burgers and other sandwiches. Â They are on their way to being a chain with six locations, but for now I will still keep them on my list for another chance.
Tried the flatbread pizza this time and was impressed. Â We ordered the Buffalo Chicken version. Â It came with white cheese, red onions, tomato, lettuce, and grilled chicken tossed in wing sauce. Â Super yummy. Â Who would have thought an Irish pub did good pizza.
Thursday nights are Irish nights with discounts on Guinness, Harp, Smithwicks, and Irish whiskey too.
Loved this place and the food is amazing!!!
My friend had the pot roast dinner and I've not seen such amazing pot roast like this in years.. it was tender and great flavor (yes he let me taste it) Â
They have a cool thing (forget the name) but it's mashed potatoes and cabbage Â
I had a shaved beef sandwich on ciabbatta bread with garlic and cheese.. it was so good.
we also had an appetizer of home made potato chips... You have to order these.
Great atmosphere and a nice place. Â
Ohhh and I forgot the brownies... WOW, amazing as well!
Really terrible salad alert! I guess maybe that's what I get for ordering a salad when everyone else got burgers, but I've had some really good salads in my day.
A small group of us went in for lunch and it was really empty... probably just a few other tables in the whole place. It was basically a standard pub experience and we had drinks right away and put in our orders. Mine? The cobb salad. Simple, right? I was starving so you can imagine how disappointed I was with what came out. Wilted iceberg lettuce, brown mushrooms a few days too old, shredded cheddar cheese (just sad), and turkey that was very wet and salty and tasted like it came out of a prepacked can. It was the most depressing salad I've ever eaten and I totally had food envy over the burgers & chicken flatbread at my table...
I ended up getting a sandwich from Subway afterwards just because I needed something in my poor stomach! The service was really, really slow too which made it even more painful. We were there for an hour and 30 minutes and our server was MIA quite a few times.
Lesson learned: when at a pub, eat pub food. Don't go near the salads. I should know this by now but just needed that one last bad Irish pub salad experience to really drive the point home.
Walked in and my group was there - they said someone told them they'd be seated soon but we stood there for a good 5 minutes with no further acknowledgment. And it wasn't a busy night. Nice patio here - on a quiet back street in Webster. Parking not great - had to park down the road on the street. It has a dark pub like environment but no smoking, yay! I hadn't been here in years because I remember it as being so smokey before the ban.
Luckily our server was good and we didn't feel ignored like we were at first. We got our drinks and food in, she brought salads, then food, then the check and change. It was quick and efficient. She also kept our drinks refilled.
My main complaint is that the menu is not vegetarian friendly at all - this hasn't changed in years. I understand that it's a pub. But this world is filled with vegetarians who like to eat something other than a grilled cheese in a pub. That's what I got. Without - shudder - provel. Yep, it comes with provel and other cheeses. It was fine. Standard. Fries were pretty good thick cut steak fries. Lots of beers, which is a plus for a pub. But the food thing, it was boring for me. I probably won't be back unless others really want to go.
Um yes, definitely a fan of Llywelyn's!
Good burgers (try the Pub Burger, it is fantastic!), great beer selection! They also have a pretty good happy hour, which is always an important thing to note, in my book! Monday - Friday 3-6pm $3 drafts (ANY of them, which is a great deal), and 1/2 price apps, to name the important ones.
The service has been good when we've been here. Note that if you come here around happy hour, there *may* be an influx of a lot of families with kids. I saw this phenomenon on Cinco De Mayo (yes, we went to an Irish pub on Cinco De Mayo, and a Mexican place on St. Pat's), so I'm not sure if it was just because parents didn't want little Johnny to be around tons of drunks, but it was definitely weird, as slowly the dining room filled up as if it were a damn TGIFridays with tons of kids. In this case, I would ask to be seated in the bar area!
This is definitely a place that will be rotated into our regular "go-to" spots.
This Llywelyn's is quieter than the others, but I am still a fan!
The best part about this location is their game room/party room. I have been here many nights for some sort of party and they always take great care of their guests. The game area is open to all, but they will reserve all of the tables for an event and set up a buffet area for your guests. They also have a window that connects to the main bar so you can order drinks right from the party room. I would say the room can hold up to 50+ people.
Just like the Soulard location, their food rocks! Also, they have live music on most, if not all, weekend nights, and their is more of an area in front of the band to get your dance on if you've had enough to drink! ;)
The bar/seating area is huge and is always busy. They also have a nice moderately sized outdoor patio area out front, which the other locations do not have. Another solid Llywelyn's location!
My friends and I go to this location more then the other ones in city limits. It is pretty huge, and can get pretty jam packed on the weekends - but the food is good and priced perfectly for the portion sizes.
They have a lot of live music, the only catch is sometimes it gets too loud to enjoy a conversation.
Just note if you come to play darts you might need to bring your own. Every time I am there the darts are missing tips, or serious have gone missing in general. One time we had to play cricket with only one dart - it was the longest game of my life. Thank the lord they have great drink specials ;)
After my most recent visit, the number of Llywelyn's cups in my kitchen cabinet now outnumbers the minutes it takes me to get to work, and that's no small task for someone who lives in Maplewood and works downtown. The lucky charms guy would have a seizure if he unloaded the top rack of my dishwasher.
I've always been drawn to their pub classics like the english muffin burger, and the cheese steak (both of which would be on a short list of things to serve at last supper), but it's the shepard's pie that makes my stomach smile whenever someone brings up up thought of going here. There's a texture thing going on with the shepard's pie of dry breading with mushroom sauce that kind of cascades down the side of a mini casserole dish that Corningware put on this earth for people like me. I shed a tear one time I left my shepard's pie leftovers in the car overnight. I ate it anyways--nothing short of contracting the plague would have made me regret that decision.
For drinks, the $2 ugly duckling beer list of PBR, Busch, High Life and (?) Icehouse is always tempting, but a bartender who can do a proper snakebite or black and tan almost always wins out when we visit. $3 bloody marys all day Sunday make this irish pub a replacement for church, not just somewhere you go afterwards.
Service is fast and attentive, and there are food runners so you don't need to worry when you get seated with a waitress who picked up a party of 14 a few minutes before; the food always arrives piping hot.
The wait can be lengthy on Fri and Sat nights, so bring cash for average/above-average drink prices. Parking can be a nightmare (don't try the driveway/back lot if you drive anything bigger than a daewoo), and Webster has a sick fetish with enforcing 4-way stops, so tread carefully. Smart money is on parking in the church lot across the street (they chain it off if it's in use).
We frequent all the Llywelyn's in the area for lunch or dinner, but most recently we tend to go to this location. Â The service is always pleasant and mostly quick in Webster Groves locale. Â
Unfortunately, to sit in the bar area is still very smoky (cannot wait for the ban!), and we also found that they changed their menu, which was disappointing. Â They took off their signature sandwich that my husband liked, and a few other things. Â They still have the pub pickles, my fav, and the adult grilled cheese & turkey melt, so I was happy with that. Â
We are frequenting locations less and less that have smoking since we have many options in Kirkwood that are banned smoking at the beginning of this year. Â I will still go for the pub pickles, but less at dinner time when the happy hour people are still around, and more at lunchtimes.
Llywelyn's is the type of place that I have a hard time writing a whole lot about... it's really not all that remarkable in any way. Â I've been here in the past, but it's been awhile -- I only went back because we had a Groupon.
We started out with the fried pickles, which were pretty good, a little bit spicy, and served REALLY hot. Â However, they were a total ripoff. Â Six little spears for something like $8? Â Jeez, thank God we had a Groupon.
They have a mixture of standard bar food and a random mixture of Celtic and English fare. Â Not in the mood for regular old bar food, I settled for the bangers and mash. Â Overall, not too bad. Â The green beans were all right (at least they weren't from a can), the mashed potatoes were average, and the sausages weren't bad and had a little bit of a kick. Â On the other hand, the potatoes and sausages were smothered with a gravy that was really kind of gross. Â Came close to ruining the whole dish, but I was able to avoid it for the most part.
All in all, they're just kind of average.
Llywelyn's has recently changed their menu and not for the better. First off, they were out of the first two entrees we tried to order - that's never happened before. The server tried to blame it on being a Monday, but we dine there frequently on Mondays and it's never been a problem.
The Shepherd's Pie used to be wonderful - dense and flavorful - and easily large enough for leftovers. The thing we got last night was nowhere near that. It was so dry. Instead of cut from an actual pie, they are now served in deep dishes (no problem with that), but at the bottom was this tasteless mixture of white bread crumbs and very dry ground beef (might have been lamb). Again, I asked the server about it and she said it was always like that (by this point, I'm thinking she hadn't worked there for very long). Very unappetizing.
Adding to the disappointment is the smokiness of the place. I asked if they would consider going smoke free in advance of the ban, and got an emphatic NO WAY.
I won't say I'll never go there again (at least until the smoking ban takes effect), but if it's a choice between Llywelyn's and a smoke free place with consistently prepared food, I'll choose the other place.
I love this place. Every time I go (which recently has been once a week or so), I try something different. I've been pretty impressed with consistency/quality of the food. To date I've only had two things that I didn't particularly care for: the fish and chips and Pub Burger. Day or night the atmosphere is nice (although in the evening it can get smokey in there).
The entertainment in the evening varies, although always involves live music, including a pretty rocking Beatles cover band.
If you go there try: the Fried Pickles, Bangers and Mashed, the Rueben or the Roast Beef sandwich. The adult grilled cheese isn't bad either.
Not much selection for a veg but I am more or less used to that and can still generally have a good dinner most places I go. The adult grilled cheese is pretty good, the fried pickles are not too bad (though I prefer pickle chips over wedges) and the salads are ok. I was excited to see they offer a vegetarian onion soup since most restaurant onion soups have animal broth but I wasn't a fan; onion soup isn't supposed to be sweet.
For some reason I do like to hit this place up at least once a winter...for some reason, it just seems like a comfort food place to go. However, the last time a friend and I were there, we were practically hyperthermic by the time we left. Get off your wallet and turn the heat up, Llywelyns!
Man, I used to love this place. My last visit left me pretty grumpy, though. I was fine with the 40-minute wait on a Saturday night; that's to be expected. But I was amazed by all the groups with kids. Out of control, running around kids. On a Saturday night. I began to become troubled.
Our server came quickly and apologized for the wait (not necessary, but a plus). We ordered our food and drinks together, and three of the five of us ordered salads. After a long time the entrees came - no salad. Our waiter looked into it and brought the salads, on the house. Again, they did a good job making up for a problem.
I've always loved the food here. I usually get the steak sandwich or fish and chips. I decided to be adventurous and get the new turkey pot pie. Don't make the same mistake as me. It was really over-seasoned with sage and there was a strong sickly-sweet flavor.
Their rarebit sauce still rocks my world. I'll just have to time my visit better next time. And be prepared to stare daggers at folks who bring their kids to a bar at 9 pm on a Saturday.
I like to think of the Llywelyn's in Webster as the restaurant version of the bar version of Llywelyn's in the Central West End. Walking into both places you know that they are in fact Llwelyn's because of the name at the door. But the Llywelyn's in Webster has a different personality. That's not a bad thing either because something is not trying to be duplicated. Each place is original in their own way, besides the name and menu.
Webster's Llywelyn's is a great place to bring a family and a good size group of friends. They have large table and tables that can be brought together to form, wait for it, large tables. Because of the restaurant is large and open, the place never feels cramp at all. In fact, even being in their on the drinking holidays of the year, even though crowded, I never felt like I would be smothered or fall through a window.
Webster Llywelyn's also offers some great musical acts too. Besides Irish and other Celtic type of folk music, they also have some straight up rock bands that perform there sometimes.
Llywelyn's in Webster is an awesome place to go with a good size group of friends where you can all sit back and enjoy each other while have a couple of brews.
One of my favorite local hang outs. It is a great space with really high ceilings, a good variety of beer on tap and a older friendly, non pretentious crowd.
They often have live bands ranging from traditional Irish to local flavor. In the summer it is my favorite patio in St. Louis.
The homemade pub chips are a must.
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